A conversation between Dr. Clark and Tony Brown, May 2000

Part III

Tony Brown: Dr. Clark, you say, "Every disease is caused by a parasite in conjunction with a pollutant."

Dr. Clark: Yes.

Tony Brown: I would like for you to tell me — keeping that parasite and pollutant rule in mind — what you would say our number one killer, heart disease, is caused by.

Dr. Clark: There are a number of different heart diseases, but all together, the heart is having a hard time and I would always go and investigate which parasite it is and which major toxin. I already know its going to be Dirofilaria because I’ve searched for it in so many different kinds of heart disease whether it’s valve disorder or arrhythmia or the other things.

Tony Brown: Dirofilaria — that’s the parasite.

Dr. Clark: Yes, it’s a little roundworm and it infects our dogs. And the cooperating toxin is cobalt

Tony Brown: Cobalt. And where would we get the parasite in the case of heart disease?

Dr. Clark: The living parasite is in dogs. But, the eggs would be in dirt. Such as we get on our produce.

Tony Brown: If I lived with a dog, according to your theory, would my chances of having heart disease be better because this parasite is common to dogs?

Dr. Clark: I would think so, but that would be theory. I advocate serializing the food. It isn’t just parasite eggs that we would get off. There’s a tremendous payback that comes from washing your produce a certain way. One minute in hot water, and then a second minute in hot water. After each one you dry it and start over. This removes the wax, the pesticides, the azo dyes, the heavy metals, parasite eggs — most of them — all together. So, that’s what I advocate as an improved hygiene for cooking.

Tony Brown: It comes along with this bad guy — this pollutant — cobalt. How do we ingest cobalt? Where do we get the cobalt that you detect inside our bodies?

Dr. Clark: It comes from two places, outside sources and internal sources. The internal ones are much more fascinating maybe, and I’ll go into that. But, the outside sources are off our dishes, because we wash our dishes with soap that has a blue color — which means it has cobalt added. (There’s cobalt in window washing products too, but, of course, that’s not so important because you wouldn’t be eating that.) The inside sources are very amazing. We are full of fungus growth. This is something that we wouldn’t have known unless we had a Syncrometer to detect it with. We have two very common kinds of fungus. One is plain yeast — the same as bread yeast — not Candida, but bread yeast. The other one is the kind of mold that grows on sugar. We call it Sorghum mold. Those two grow in us in all kinds of locations. You’ll find them in your arteries, veins — any place that you’re having a little problem — there they are, growing there. And when you kill them, which a healthy, young body does all the time — your body’s immune system or something is killing them — and after you have killed them they release their cobalt.

Tony Brown: You recommend Vitamin C to kill molds.

Dr. Clark: Killing these kinds of molds is more difficult than other little kinds of molds. You can’t kill this kind of mold with little doses of Vitamin C.

Tony Brown: I see.

Dr. Clark: We need herbs besides Vitamin C, Pau d’Arco herb and Echinacea herb, to kill these two very viscous fungus growths that are probably part of the etiology of heart disease.

Tony Brown: So, when you do kill the mold, which is good, you then create a by-product of cobalt?

Dr. Clark: Yes, you have to remove the cobalt.* You can do EDTA chelation,** which is an alternative therapy. That will remove cobalt. And a popular new supplement on the market called IP6, Inositol Hexaphosphoric Acid, will remove cobalt. Altogether that does a good job. While it (cobalt) is free, it competes with your B12. So the heart is deprived of Vitamin B12, and, at the same time, it (cobalt) has the toxic effect of shutting down your metabolism. Cobalt poisons a little compound that’s a hub of your metabolism. It’s like knocking out your gearshift in the car; then you can’t do anything.

Tony Brown: What if you already have heart disease? What do you recommend that person do for maintenance?

Dr. Clark: Take Vitamin B12, eliminate cobalt and kill fungus and parasites*** — all together — at the same time. You’ll be killing parasites in your tissues where they cannot leave, which is different from in your intestine or the pancreas, where they can leave through the intestine. When you kill parasites in the heart tissue and other tissues where they can’t leave, you have to mop up the mess, the dead parasites, at the same time. If you don’t, the dead parasites will grow fungus. And that’s what happens in heart disease; you grow fungus.

*Note by Bonnie: There are two types of minerals, organic and inorganic. Organic minerals give us good health. Inorganic minerals destroy our health. There are two ways to get organic minerals: 1. Drink a dozen glasses of fresh vegetable and fruit juice daily and hope the juice is rich in minerals or, 2. Drink several tablespoons of WaterOz minerals daily.

**Note by Bonnie: Organic minerals will replace inorganic minerals in our tissues (a natural form of chelation). One way to use this natural form of chelation is to remove inorganic cobalt (the type of cobalt that is released by killing bread yeast and Sorghum mold) by drinking 2 Tbs. WaterOz Cobalt mixed with distilled water daily as you kill the yeast and mold with Echinacea and Pau d’Arco. You may further aid the body in eliminating the inorganic cobalt that is released by soaking for 30 minutes in a tub of hot water with 4 oz. of Liquid Needles COF-130 mixed into the water (see Testimonials, Case 2, page 8).

***Note by Bonnie: "Dr. Clark kills parasites with the green hull of the black walnut tree’s nut, cloves — just the same as you cook or bake with — and wormwood, which is an ancient anti-parasite treatment, plus an electrical treatment (Zapper treatment)."

Your body, of course, will be killing that fungus — and we take a strong approach in helping the body to kill it — which releases cobalt. Then you have to remove the cobalt at the same time and give a great big shot of B12. We kill the fungus with 2 herbs, Echinacea and Pau d’Arco. We use a heaping teaspoon three times a day for a few days while we are destroying the fungus.

Tony Brown: What would you name cancer, the condition we describe as cancer?

Dr. Clark: Parasitism by Fasciolopsis buskii and toxicity from isopropyl alcohol.

Tony Brown: That’s the parasite and the solvent.

Dr. Clark: Yes.

Tony Brown: Where do we get Fasciolopsis buskii?

Dr. Clark: We eat it in meat and we get the eggs in produce.

Tony Brown: Where do we get the solvent or the isopropyl alcohol?

Dr. Clark: In nearly all our processed food — where the processors are using it as an antiseptic — and in our (body) products where it is used as an antiseptic. And it is also made indigenously just like the cobalt was made indigenously. Isopropyl alcohol is made indigenously — in the body — by the bacterium clostridium.

Tony Brown: Clostridium is a bacterium and according to your book we get a lot of that from the metalware in our teeth.

Dr. Clark: It lives under the fillings, whether plastic or metal, it doesn’t matter.

Tony Brown: And in your book you say that where we’ve had a root canal the Clostridium sets up and colonizes the area around that tooth and it then seeps into our body and produces isopropyl alcohol.

Dr. Clark: Yes. It also makes the extra DNA that the tumors need for growth.

Tony Brown: You don’t say, for example, that you know how to cure heart disease, do you?

Dr. Clark: No.

Tony Brown: But you do claim that you know how to cure cancer.

Dr. Clark: Yes.

Tony Brown: What do you recommend as your cure for cancer?

Dr. Clark: Killing all Fasciolopsis buskii stages, which is a tall order, and getting rid of isopropyl alcohol in your food and (body) products and not making it indigenously with this Clostridium bacterium.

Tony Brown: What is the connection with the azo dyes and cancer?

Dr. Clark: They cause most of the mutations. Maybe half, I can’t be quantitative with my device. Vanadium is the other element that causes mutations. Between vanadium and the azo dyes, they cause the mutations that the biologist sees when you send in a biopsy.

Tony Brown: In other words, a healthy cell turns into an unhealthy cell.

Dr. Clark: Yes. It causes many different kinds of mutations, usually including the P53 mutation, yes.

Tony Brown: What would you name stroke?

Dr. Clark: It’s a fungus toxicity. It’s a particular fungus, the same one that I mentioned before that we call Sorghum mold. I don’t know the exact scientific name for that particular fungus, but it occurs in sweet things, sugary things. The mold or the spores are there and it grows in our blood vessels and it makes a microtoxin of some kind, which causes little bleeds to develop in your vascular system. An elderly person would get purple patches, the diagnosis might be purpura, but of course that’s irrelevant. What’s happening is that your blood vessels are bursting and when that happens in the brain you have stroke.

Tony Brown: In order to protect oneself against a potential stroke what should one look for?

Dr. Clark: What to look for is that kind of mold growth, fungus growth, in the brain. And, if it’s there, you need to kill it. And if you kill it, you need to get the cobalt out.

Tony Brown: But the average person can’t look in the brain, so how would we detect it?

Dr. Clark: I think the average person detects it in a different way. The doctor detects it for you by asking whether you have little periods where your eyes aren’t functioning right or something else mentally is going on.

Tony Brown: A medical examination.

Dr. Clark: Yes. You have to have a pretty serious condition before you could get that diagnosis, whereas with the Syncrometer you could prevent it away ahead of time.

Tony Brown: What do you recommend as a treatment for it?

Dr. Clark: Not eating that fungus anymore. In other words, not eating sweets unless it’s honey or a boiled version of the sweet, like maple syrup. You can boil it. That kills the spores.

Tony Brown: What would you name lung disease/asthma?

Dr. Clark: Simple Ascarism. One stage in the life history in the little Ascaris worm is the egg and then the little larvae.

Tony Brown: That’s the parasite?

Dr. Clark: Yes. And they have this stage in the lungs, although this stage can occur in the rest of the body. I see it a lot of it in the spinal cord, for instance, as well as the brain.

Tony Brown: Is that lung disease or is that asthma?

Dr. Clark: Asthma. When a person comes to me with asthma — I don’t diagnose asthma, the person would come to me already diagnosed with asthma — I always see Ascaris. And you have to kill it. It’s quite hard to eradicate because all the food has the eggs on it.

Tony Brown: Does this parasite come primarily from animals like dogs, cats, horses, and pigs?

Dr. Clark: Yes. Nearly all animals have a variety of Ascaris.

Tony Brown: What is your overall advice about pets?

Dr. Clark: That we must be much more cautious about pets. Either we must keep them deparasitized on a daily basis, not once a month getting some drug. Either we keep them deparasitized with herbs on a daily basis or we shouldn’t have them. Whenever I take a dust sample from a home or ask a patient to bring a dust sample from their home, which we do with every patient, if there’s a pet there we detect the eggs of parasites in that pet throughout the house. Not necessarily at a very high level, but sometimes it is at a high level, and in homes where there is no pet there is much less of those parasite eggs.

Tony Brown: Let’s move to pneumonia and influenza. What would you name that?

Dr. Clark: Pneumonia again is lung disease. And it really just means fluid accumulation. And that could be due to any number of bacteria. And that in turn is due to low immunity in the lungs. Very many cancer patients have lung disease already and we see there the bacteria and fungus growth and viruses that are being spawned by the parasites in that person’s body. In other words, even flu virus does not come from the air — you can get it from somebody else’s cough droplet — but that isn’t really where it comes from — it’s coming from one of these larger parasites. I haven’t completely figured out which parasite it is that releases flu A and B, I test for them together.

Tony Brown: Our next killer is diabetes.

Dr. Clark: That’s fairly simple. We clear it up while we’re treating a cancer patient without even trying. So, it’s fairly straightforward; you kill all your parasites, including the pancreatic fluke, and you clean up your diet so you’re not eating isopropyl alcohol, which is the common solvent in food. Another common solvent is wood alcohol, so when you stop eating processed food of any kind, beverage or non-beverage, you no longer get that solvent and you recover quite quickly. Stop drinking bottled water and don’t eat all the processed food in the market. Make fruit and vegetables and pasta and things like that.

[Transcribed from Tony Brown’s Journal (Shows #2308 to #2311)]

Note by Bonnie: Due to popular demand the four 30 minute shows of Tony Brown’s Journal, featuring Dr. Hulda Regehr Clark, Ph.D., N.D., have been shown several times since May 2000. Each time they are shown we receive numerous calls from people ordering one or more of her books and requesting a sample of the newsletter.

If you would like to order the four videos please call Tony Brown’s Journal, (212) 575-0876.

Note: Dr. Hulda R. Clark, Ph.D., N.D. has published the following books:

  1. The Cure for All Cancers, 1993 — update printed in 1998, same ISBN # (623 pages).
  2. The Cure for HIV and AIDS, 1994 — update printed in 1997, same ISBN # (543 pages).
  3. The Cure for All Diseases, 1995 (604 pages).
  4. The Cure for All Advanced Cancers (Including hard evidence of tumor shrinkage and disappearance), 1999 (610 pages).
  5. Syncrometer Science Laboratory Manual, Experimental procedures for biological investigations using syncrometry. Plus Applications in Plate-Zapping and other new zapping techniques for cancer therapy, 2000 (172 pages — 101 more pages than the Preliminary Edition that had 71 pages).