A conversation between Dr. Clark and Tony Brown, May 2000
Part IV
Dr. Clark: Yes, because it hasn’t progressed to the point of malignancy. But, you shouldn’t be celebrating very hard for very long because you are at great risk for developing malignancy in it. Parasites, Fasciolopsis buskii or its stages, will invade a benign tumor and after it gets going for awhile, the tumor becomes malignant. The benign tumor is a much more complicated thing than the malignancy. I’ve worked for five years now working out what causes the benign tumor and it’s a whole different thing — mostly due to a bacterium. I called it the "tumor forming bacterium" — it’s a family of bacteria called clostridium. There are about a dozen causes — you don’t just kill the fluke parasite (Fasciolopsis buskii) — there are other additional causes — there is fungus growth there and bacterial growth and viruses are growing there too. We have to kill them all. And remove the major toxins, about three — that’s all. If we remove all that the tumor shrinks.
Tony Brown: Have you worked with anyone to whom you have said: "Tony, if you want to get rid of that cancer, here are the five things I want you to do and if you do these five things I believe that the cancer, the malignancy, will go away." But I don’t do all five things, I only do three of them, so then my cancer doesn’t go away. Can I legitimately say that your treatment doesn’t work?
Dr. Clark: No, you can’t legitimately do that, but the body does appreciate your help very much. If you’re in an early stage of cancer and you’re still pretty healthy and you do half the things that I say you need to do, very often the body just takes hold and devours the whole tumor.
Tony Brown: Nickel, according to your book, is often found in the prostate of the male.
Dr. Clark: Yes.
Tony Brown: Is nickel found primarily in the soil?
Dr. Clark: No, although there is plenty of nickel in the soil. (Toxic) nickel comes primarily from your metal watchband, metal eyeglass frames and, most of all, from metal tooth fillings. (Editor’s Note: In a previous interview with Tony Brown, Dr. Clark mentions that you can do EDTA chelation therapy to rid your body of toxic metals. For information about EDTA chelation therapy please see page 12.)
Tony Brown: Now, it (the prostate) also favors a particular kind of parasite.
Dr. Clark: If it’s going to be hypertrophy — leading to tumor formation and cancer — then it’s always Fasciolopsis buskii. But, other fluke stages get there also.
Tony Brown: And if it is clostridium it could be from, according to your theory, leakage from the metal in your teeth.
Dr. Clark: And, of course, that isn’t pure. There’s nickel in every other metal — and there’s the magnetic element.
Tony Brown: You admit you made one mistake. In your first book you recommended that people do what?
Dr. Clark: Change their metal fillings to plastic. I recommended changing it to composites — some kind of plastic — and now I do not.
Tony Brown: And why do you now not recommend it?
Dr. Clark: Because the plastic is contaminated. Again, there is no purity in the minds of the manufacturers — that would be way too expensive, no doubt. I didn’t know that nearly every plastic has acrylic acid in it and acrylic acid gets detoxified by the body to malonic acid, which leads to methyl malonate and there you have your kidney disease. And I also didn’t know that there were azo dyes in the plastic — from that little bit of color that you see — dyes are in there.
Tony Brown: You didn’t think that dyes would come from a white substance.
Dr. Clark: Right, I didn’t suspect it. And I didn’t know that there were magnetic elements — as a pollutant — in them. And I didn’t know that there was uranium in most of them. Uranium! Why? How could you be sucking on uranium all day — even if the radiation level is low — and not expect to develop tumors wherever it lands? At first maybe you could excrete it, but nobody in their right mind would put uranium in their mouth — not even on their skin — but it is being put in our teeth!
Tony Brown: If you had a gold tooth on one side of your mouth and a silver tooth on the other side of your mouth, what would your mouth become?
Dr. Clark: You can expect current to run between those two because of their dissimilar metals.
Tony Brown: It would be like a battery, wouldn’t it?
Dr. Clark: Yes.
Tony Brown: Like an electric battery?
Dr. Clark: Yes.
Tony Brown: Why do you so strongly recommend that we get the metal ware out of our mouths?
Dr. Clark: In every case of baldness I have seen nickel in the scalp. People who are not getting bald don’t have nickel in the scalp. So, I think there’s a likely cause there. There’s a very big contribution of toxic metal to cancer — tumor growth. I see copper, cobalt, and vanadium — always there. I see toxic germanium — always there. There are many contributors — if it’s prostate cancer you see nickel, if it’s ovarian cancer or cancer of the pancreas you see gold. We thought gold was so good — not at all — it has a place where it likes to accumulate.
Tony Brown: What parasitic name would you give kidney disease?
Dr. Clark: I don’t know a parasite for that, but the toxin is methyl malonate. That derives from plastic. There is also an indigenous source — I haven’t studied it enough yet — but plastic in your teeth is what makes methyl malonate (which causes kidney disease).
(Editor’s Note: Malonic acid is associated with tapeworms. Kill tapeworms with Cysteine and Ozonated Olive Oil and square wave frequency zapping — page 133 of Lab Manual.)
Tony Brown:
What name would you give liver disease?Dr. Clark:
Liver disease is just a big collection of parasites in the liver. The liver has just lost its immunity. That’s why you’re getting hepatitis C and other liver diseases. By loss of immunity I mean two things I mentioned before: asbestos-eating has caused coating of the white blood cells with ferritin and the other immune lowering cause is magnetic metals. When you eat magnetic metals; lanthanides — there are 15 of them — they ruin your white cells’ ability to move around. Each white cell has to be able to see the enemy and it has to be able to move around with great mobility to get it’s pseudopods (feet) out there to grab the enemy. Those are the two main functions of the immune system, and when you knock it out with asbestos-eating and when you knock it out with lanthanides-eating you have a loss of immunity and that organ will fail.Tony Brown: What about blood poisoning?
Dr. Clark: I think it would mean some bug that is systemic — going through your whole system — and would be so toxic as to kill you — poison you.
Tony Brown: Alzheimer’s Disease and the fluke Fasciolopsis buskii — is that a worm?
Dr. Clark: Yes, it’s a fluke, meaning a flat worm — it’s a leach — a tiny leach.
Tony Brown: And what pollutant is that with?
Dr. Clark: Xylene and Toluene, two solvents that are getting more and more prevalent in our food and beverages — processed food.
Tony Brown: There are twenty-eight thousand American’s dying a year of AIDS and we are told that there is no way that we can cure AIDS, but you’re saying that you can.
Dr. Clark: We could do it very quickly. We need to take the benzene out of our food supply and product supply. And for Africa, I think it is also in their water supply.
[Transcribed from Tony Brown’s Journal (Shows #2308 to #2311)]
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