A conversation between Dr. Clark and Tony Brown, May 2000
Dr. Clark:
I generalize because I saw so many diseases that I was working on to be due to a parasite and a toxin in combination. It’s kind of a collusion between them. I generalize and say, "All diseases are due to some parasite, or something that is trying to live on you, even if it’s a bacterium (that’s really a parasite, in a sense), and a toxin, maybe a solvent — maybe a heavy metal, that’s facilitating that invader."Tony Brown: Give me an example of a disease and an example of a parasite and a pollutant and how they work together to create that disease.
Dr. Clark: The easiest example that comes to mind is diabetes. You have the pancreatic fluke invading the pancreas and probably the islets of Langerhans, which are inside. And you have the pollutant, methyl alcohol (wood alcohol), which pollutes all the processed food on the market in tiny amounts. But by the time you drink and eat it all day long — with that little bit in everything — it adds up to be too much for a person. That is the combination I always see in diabetes. That might not be all there is to it, but if you correct those two things, you recover from your diabetes.
Tony Brown: What foods would have parasitic content that you would find adverse to us that would create these diseases?
Dr. Clark: Nearly everything. Nearly all the produce has dirt on it — how could it be otherwise, it was grown in the soil! You can’t sterilize the produce, so the dirt that’s on it has parasite eggs — primarily eggs — all different kinds of parasites; round worms, flat worms — anything you can think of that lives in dirt or is spread through dirt (namely has had animal leftovers in it) — is on the food. It’s cleaner than if you had just pulled it up, of course. They do wash it, I think, before it leaves the farm or the big gardens. But the produce has parasite eggs on it. And all the dairy products have parasite eggs and stages in them.
Tony Brown: One of your theories is that we get certain contaminants in bottled water; not because the water is not pure, but because of the chemicals used to clean the bottling equipment. Could you explain that?
Dr. Clark: Yes. One of the chemicals allowed for cleaning bins, vats, mixing dishes, bottles — everything — is isopropyl alcohol. We do need them sterile and by law they need to be cleaned with something that sterilizes them — I’m not against sterilizing anything —we need them sterilized! But, when you use chemicals and you are required to leave the bins and bottles wet — that’s a legal requirement, you may not rinse them out — you are contaminating them!
Tony Brown: You would prefer the public to drink tap water?
Dr. Clark: Yes, from the cold side, of course. Because that hasn’t gone through your heating system. But, it is by far the better water.
Tony Brown: Are there chemicals in the municipal water?
Dr. Clark: Yes, there are, but the levels are pretty low. And it is far better than drinking solvents. In bottled water you must drink traces of whatever was used to sterilize that bottle and the machinery used to pump the water. And that is often a solvent.
Tony Brown: With regard with what we eat, you’re proposing a pretty draconian adjustment in life. And that is, in order to look at pollutants — and normally when we say pollution we think of the sky or the air — you really are talking about the elements in our environment: our furniture, the things that we use to clean our homes — the detergents. You’re talking about the clothes we wear, the dry cleaning. And you’re talking about things as simple as getting your hair colored or tinted.
Dr. Clark: It would be pretty easy to take those special toxic things out. And I’m hoping that that’s what will happen. It’s just that we have an inertia about us, at least commercially. The manufacturers have an inertia about them — not wanting to change. But you wouldn’t be changing to a draconian lifestyle. You can have nearly everything that’s out there, if it would just be cleaned up. You see they did ban azo dyes in food products decades ago. But I find traces of azo dyes in our foods — in nearly all our processed foods. By nearly all I mean about 95% of everything I test, and I test probably 10-50 items a day, which turns into thousands. Nearly everything is polluted with azo dyes. I was shocked! We checked with the FDA — some personnel there — who gave me quite an education in that nobody is testing for azo dyes anymore because they are illegal.
Tony Brown: Why would a manufacturer run that risk if they are illegal?
Dr. Clark: They aren’t being put there purposely. They get in as a pollutant. When we ingest azo dyes the liver has to mobilize its special systems of detoxification, which were only meant to be used occasionally. Now, we’re like alcoholics — when we drink alcohol our liver must use a special system of detoxification — and now we’re eating processed and artificial foods that the liver has to detoxify. I think that’s it, but that’s just a theory — I haven’t observed it — its just a theory of mine that that’s why the liver is behaving so poorly — that my grandchildren have to be treated very carefully with respect to everything that’s cooked for them and still they hardly eat.
[Transcribed from Tony Brown’s Journal (Shows #2308 to #2311), (800) 524-3552]